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Welcome to the world of civil asset forfeiture: enriching the local police at your expense

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Thursday, October 04, 2007
A mural in Willimantic says it all.

Even if you're a law-abiding citizen who's never been convicted of a crime, local police are allowed to confiscate your property and money and keep up to 80 percent of it for themselves, with the legal stipulation that this windfall be spent only on programs likely to result in additional confiscations where the police can keep up to 80 percent of the booty for themselves.

That's addressed to you. And it's no joke.

"The money can only be used for the police department ... it gets recycled back into drug work [and] it can't supplant normally budgeted items," says Detective Tom Gameli, who handles these confiscations for the West Hartford police department.

The police in West Hartford had a profitable year; at the last council meeting on Sept. 25, a resolution passed that moved close to $180,000 in money made from property taken in forfeiture cases in West Hartford, into the local drug enforcement fund.

But the cops can't just sit back and wait for fate to shower them with such largess, Gameli said. "For us to get the money, we have to seize the stuff."

He's talking about asset forfeiture, one of the more devastating weapons in the government's drug war arsenal. The rationale behind it sounds sensible enough: if you make money from criminal activities, you shouldn't get to keep your ill-gotten gains. And whether you agree with the law or not, intoxicants other than alcohol are illegal, so money made from the sale of such is (legally) fair game for confiscation.

But so is anything else that has any involvement with drug activity. If you want to buy a joint, you can lose the car you drove to make the deal. The same holds true if a friend or spouse borrows your car for the same purpose. The confiscated car is sold at auction, and the police force that nabbed it gets to keep 70 or 80 percent of the proceeds, depending upon the car's value.

"Most of the money we get from state asset forfeiture, because the feds have higher [monetary] standards," Gameli said. "If you're gonna take a house, you go through the feds, if you take $250 from a knucklehead on the street, you go state ... the federal threshold is $2,000 for cash, $5,000 for cars." If it's a federal case the town police get to keep 80 percent of the proceeds, but they only get 70 percent on the state level.

"We've done polls," said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance. "Two things about asset forfeiture the public dislikes: first, that when cops and prosecutors seize property they get to keep it for their own departments, the public finds that corrupting ... and second, that you could lose your property without a criminal conviction."

How can the government take your money or property if you haven't been convicted of a crime? "These are civil cases," Gameli said, and they differ from criminal ones. "It bolsters the case if he's convicted [of a crime]," Gameli said, but "a civil case has a lower standard of proof ... I know of cases where the guy walked on the charges, but still lost his car or his money."

Bruce Mirken of the Marijuana Policy Project finds that disturbing. "What he's saying, it sounds like, is that he thinks it's just fine for the government to take property from people who have been found innocent of the alleged crime ... In what parallel universe is that fair, just or reasonable?"

Calling these "civil" cases implies that they are reviewed by the courts, but that's not necessarily true.

"Generally speaking ... approximately 80 percent or more of civil forfeiture cases are not contested," says Allen St. Pierre, executive director of NORML (National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws). This is in part because contesting the process can cost more than the value of what's been confiscated.

"The average vehicle seized is worth about $4,000," said Brenda Grantland, president of FEAR (Forfeiture Endangers American Rights). "To defend a case, especially when you're out of state, they've pretty much made it cost prohibitive. I don't take cases of less than $20,000 ... it'll cost more than that to defend it." Neither Gameli nor the DEA could say what percentage of their confiscations came from people actually convicted of a crime, or from folks who lost in-court civil cases.

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Remember Gameli's hypothetical "knucklehead" who enriched the local constabulary? Chances are he had drugs on him too. But not necessarily — under asset forfeiture laws, the simple possession of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity.

You'll find no shortage of examples throughout the country. Two recent examples, chosen only because they're so unremarkable, are as follows: in October 2006, two men driving through Davidson County, North Carolina, were stopped by sheriff's deputies and found to have $88,000 hidden in their car. The men told the sheriffs they were on their way to buy a house in Atlanta. Although no drugs were found, the sheriffs confiscated the money anyway. And just last August, a truck driver at a weigh station in El Paso had $23,700 confiscated; once again, no drugs or contraband were found, but the cash led to an assumption of guilt.

Naturally, police and the DEA insist they're not infringing upon the rights of innocent people. "The police won't take [the money] if they have a good excuse," says Steve Robertson, a DEA spokesman down in D.C., when asked about cases like the one in El Paso. "I would assume he was listed in a database where he might be drug-related."

"Databases contain errors," said Mirken. "Just look at the TSA's no-fly list, which at one point almost kept Sen. Edward Kennedy off a flight as a suspected terrorist ... the idea that government should be able to simply take a person's money, house or car without having to prove the person did anything wrong is obscene."

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Allen St. Pierre says that in such cases, "the onus and total burden is entirely on the citizen/business to disprove the government's case" in such situations.

Robertson of the DEA agrees. If you can prove the money wasn't acquired illegally, then the police won't take it.

But that leads to a problem. Say that every week when you cash your paycheck you stick a $100 bill in a coffee can. If the police want to confiscate this cash years later, the onus should be on them to prove the money is illegal, because you might not be able to prove it isn't.

"Property rights are not considered as important as personal liberty, so due process is often reduced," Grantland said. "We've been fighting for years to get [asset forfeiture] under control, but there's no way it'll go away because the government gets too much money doing it."

Even proving where you got the money might not save you, Grantland said. "Some victims called us a few years ago ... he'd just won a medical malpractice settlement ... he and his friends, low-income black guys, decided to go to Las Vegas [and] got as far as Plano, Texas. It got confiscated. They even showed them the settlement ... I don't know if they ever got their money back."

West Hartford probably has a few residents who like to smoke the occasional unlicensed cigarette behind closed doors. And from the cops' perspective, there's a lot of money to be made cracking down on these criminals. So one of the items on the agenda at last week's town council meeting said this: "Resolution appropriating drug asset forfeiture money in the Drug Enforcement Fund."

The measure passed unanimously. Deputy Mayor Art Spada was not in attendance, but Mayor Scott Slifka and all seven members of the council were.

Do the council members know that some of that windfall money could have been confiscated from folks who were not found guilty of any crimes? We sent an e-mail asking "do you, as elected officials, have any Constitutional and/or ethical qualms about the police confiscating property from town residents who were not convicted of a crime?"

As of press time, four days later, none had responded.

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I don't see any new information in the article. We have been living in a police state whereby the cowboy cops with the police-state mentality now think that the rest of us are fair game to steal from, to shoot or zap with their latest toys, and then to incarcerate us.
When you see how the masses-r-asses have been dumbed-down by the government schools and that dumbing-down is totally maintained by the controlled media, what else should you expect!
As Ben Franklin once stated, "If you are willing to sacrifice liberty for security, you should bend down and lick the hand that (allegedly) feeds you.", or words to that same intent!
Posted by donald patriot on 10.3.07 at 21.41
There is a problem when money from confiscations is used for funding institutions. A monetary penalty is supposed to be a disincentive, therefore limiting the conduct penalized. Tobacco taxes, alcohol taxes, etc, work in a similar manner, in theory. The problem with law enforcement, unlike the above (stupid and don't work anyway but are disproportionately applied to lower income people) taxes is that they are involuntary. If the conduct truly does decrease, then presumably the money will. Although it is said the money cannot be used for budgeted items, the fact is that if confiscation money wasn't used, then appropriated funds would, and therefore there would be a funding deficit. This, in turn, would cause the agency to seek more and more ridiculous cases, simply to feed the cash flow stream.

Such laws would have much better standing if the organization charged with the confiscation had no way to reap any benefit from it. At that point it would be law enforcement. At this point, it's basically larceny.
Posted by A Moose on 10.4.07 at 11.57
Rules 7,8, and 10 of your terms and conditions scare me. Is this laying new ground work for Government , Business , and Media censorship? You talk of Government confiscation laws with just a monetary mind set. Let's look at just responding to this article. Once a response is given, your Email must be given for a response; elimanting any chance of annonymity. So if any Government agency dislikes the comments stated, they have an open door for retaliation. The old adage "bad things( or accidents) can happen " comes to mind. Pretty scary since I have seen adds showing a Marijuana cigarette in a government advertisement. The ad links Marijuana users as sponsers of terrorism. Wow, that's a pretty big leap there, in my mind. Saying this, how big of a leap would it be to say just speaking out against confiscation laws won't have repercutions. We as Americans can no longer protest politicians directly. Now we have to go to a specified place for protest .Usually out of sight and sound of any political event. Now as I write this and give my Email address, I wonder what part of my privacy and ability to speak out " freely" has been confiscated.
Posted by Mr.Bichen on 10.6.07 at 11.08
You could, of course use a false email address, Bichen
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patel swati jagdishbhai patel


person orignal date of birth 16 july 1984
person duplicate date of birth 16 july 1986

regard of document fraud and got visa n passport..

dont put a green card . parson fruade with embessy n usa gov.

if you not related this msg so plz forwar

as possibal to forwar to this mail right addarash
plz help me sir

regards
infomar
us gov.



regard of fraud with US embassy n us gov. tack the action



sir i sand a mail all us high authority



but no right action



pls ..........



har parson usa addrash



1 swati jagdishbhai patel





parson fruade with ambessy n us gov.



plz tack the action..



addrash for har residance



swati jagdishbhai patel



11 Saint James St

West Hartford CT 06119



RESI>NUMBER: (860)233-2332



two sitster same fruade with embessy



To…





The concerning authority

US Embassy



Sub:- in regard of fraud with US embassy



Sir..





This is to inform you that there is a parson who has done fraud with US ambessy and got the VISA

The name of the parson is patel swati jagdishbhai & addreas 46 harikrupa near GEB gotri road baroda Gujarat india pin 390021 har father name jagdishbhai morarbhai pate that parson has takan has passport on duplicate

LC (living certificate} her actual age is 24 above but she has done LC {living certificate} in har birthdate in LC leving certificate below 2 year

As soon as I come to know about this matter I am introing to the us ambessy if you will check that parson reel LC leving certificate on the basic of you can find the har documentation was false .

That parson has got the VISA between 15th to 26th September 2008 and that parson is go to USA in 18th October 2008.





So please take a action in regard of this matter

plz chek har parson documant



please basis this massage to the us authority as soon as possible





your faithfully







the informer

passport duplicate

living certy (LC) duplicate

voting id card duplicate







living certy ( 16 july 1986 ) thish fals

passport birth (16 july 1986 ) this is false.

voting id card (16 july 1986) this is false.

birth date certey ( 16 july 1984 ) this is right

driveng licence (16 july 1984 ) this is right


chek indian documant

lick orignal living certy (LC) (indai)
lick driveng licence ( india )
lick insurance police ( india )
madical polici ( india )
brith certy ( india )
orignal exam certy..
n chake athor indian certy ..
check doc 1 year old..



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Posted by HD LCD monitor on 6.26.09 at 6.26
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