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Why not grow some of your own food?

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Tuesday, March 03, 2009

It's not coming back. The party's over. This isn't some temporary blip in the economy that a little belt-tightening will fix. One less latte and a smaller, "fuel efficient" SUV will not make this problem go away.

It would be nice to have all that money back from our Iraq misadventure. It would have been nice to have had eight years of competent federal leadership. But even so, the party had to end some time. It just came sooner than we expected. This is what the CEOs used to call a paradigm shift. Or, to borrow another corporate buzz-phrase, this is a perfect storm — too many people, too few finite resources (oil, water, coal), too little meaningful work, etc.

James Howard Kunstler, though he angers some with his dystopian forecasts, hammers this point home on his blog (www.kunstler.com). Because he has been right far more often than wrong in the past two decades, Kunstler is worth a listen (and his books, The Long Emergency and The Geography of Nowhere, should be required reading). In a recent entry, he wrote, "Dear Mr. President, you are presiding over an epochal contraction, not a pause in the growth epic. Your assignment is to manage that contraction in a way that does not lead to world war, civil disorder or both. Among other things, contraction means that all the activities of everyday life need to be downscaled including standards of living, ranges of commerce, and levels of governance. 'Consumerism' is dead. Revolving credit is dead — at least at the scale that became normal the last thirty years. The wealth of several future generations has already been spent and there is no equity left there to re-finance."

Drunks are told the first step to recovery is to admit a problem. We collectively had a problem. We were drunk on consumption. But now we are at one of those rare moments in history where we can redirect its energies toward different goals, driven by different ideologies besides the broken-down dichotomy of right and left, Commies and Yankees, white and black, etc. The key is to admit this is not a temporary downturn. Such delusions only keep people from fomenting real solutions.

Where I live, this effort — no matter how nascent or small — can be seen in the revival of what was once the largest working farm in town. It's more than a desire to return to New England quaintness. It may be the path to the future. The farm was acquired about 10 years ago as open space, soon after which the environment commission (on which I sat at that time) wrote a management plan for the property that included a farming component. But then it died, paralyzed by town hall's petty bickering.

Out of frustration, a group of active citizens came together to pitch the idea of a community-supported agriculture (CSA) project on the farm. After much wrangling (and the loss of a season's planting), they finally got the approval. The first crops are going in this year and shares are being sold even as we speak. It is a small step (two acres will eventually be cultivated), but it is a step, and the whole town is jazzed. As a "subscriber" in the past to a CSA in another town, I was astonished by how much food could be grown on half an acre of carefully tended land.

On the Web site of the state's organic farms (ctnofa.org/CSAs), there are 38 CSAs listed. Chances are, in a state this small, there is one near you. If not, maybe you should start one? Rep. Terry Backer (D-Stratford) has proposed a bill (HB 5800) that is itself a small step — to simply amend the statutes "to promote localized production of food through community gardening and backyard food production."

If my town is any guide, don't wait for even well-meaning government officials to take the first step. Better yet, put some crops in the ground this year in your own backyard. It's the first step toward breaking the chain of dependency and helplessness.

 

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Awesomely optimistic blog, Alan!

"Do yourself a favor; start growing food in your back yard and just wait for the world to end. Don't be stupid and think we can ever recover from this!"

Ladies and gentlement - the 2009 liberal mindset! I shudder to think how you may have reacted had you been writing your blog in the 1930s.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 4.38
Hey Joe-
Except in the '30's we were the world's #1 lender & oil exporter. Wouldn't it be nice if we had China's cash and Saudia Arabia's oil as reserves to help pull us out of this.
Too bad now we're the #1 debtor and oil importer.
Hey right wing Joe- What do you think will pull us out? Complaining about "liberals"? Acting just like people like have been acting for decades, expecting things to be different this time?
Come on, right wing Joe, tell us why it's all going to be okay and why we should keep making fun of people that are making significant changes to empower themselves and their communities.
Posted by john on 3.4.09 at 5.29
I'm no big fan of Kunstler's style, but I agree with his basic tenet that we are completely vulnerable to any number of supply-lines. Here in New England, our electricity depends on Natural Gas shipments, we paved over most of our farms, our home-heat is largely #2 Oil, our cooking is electric, propane and NG..

We need to rebuild our own sources for the basic necessities. It's not that hard, but neither is quitting Soda.. you just have to get past all the people around you going 'Why would you bother with that?'

It's thin ice, baby, and you won't know it till you're wet.
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 6.25
John,

Bisbort is the one saying the economy won't rebound and that, even if it does, global warming will probably kill us all first. haha. What am I going to do? I'm gonna keep living my life and find a way to support myself and my family. I'm not going to write blogs about how the world is ending. While Bisbort is starting his garden and building a bunker, I'll be enjoying a glass of wine and appreciating the things we should all be thankful for.

The world is not ending so I suggest you guys stop feeling sorry for yourselves. Thanks for asking.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 6.25
John;
If you believe that Joe's family is as exposed to this as the rest of us, would you consider using language that he might be willing to listen to?

Van Jones says some great things in the new issue of Yes magazine about how we on the left need to get past the angry, self-righteous yelling about these global issues. It prevents any kind of useful discussion. (PS, conservatives need to do this as well. )

I don't think the world is ending, but it is changing. Enjoy your wine, Joe, and enjoy this cheap gas for a little while longer!

Bob
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 6.37
Joe,

It might be helpful to you to make a list of every product, job, and industry that is made of, supported by, or uses oil. The list will be massive, and you'll realize just how much oil is the lifeblood of the world economy. After you make the list, start crossing of all the jobs that will be lost, products that will disappear, and sectors that will vanish. That'll be another long list. Many products, jobs, and nearly entire industries will disappear as oil depletes and is priced beyond usefulness. Current ways of life will be unsustainable. The speed and scale of life will contract. It will be the end of economic growth as we have come to know it. The resulting domino effect on the economy will make the current crisis look small by comparison. It's pride in Biblical proportions to think that your infinite growth economy can be sustained on a finite planet with depleting resources.
Posted by Pythor Sehn on 3.4.09 at 6.46
Pythor,

You are a doomday-er and you're overreacting.

Yes, oil will eventually run out but not for a VERY long time. And I have a sneaking suspicion that the human race will find alternative sources of energy before that time comes.

Cheer up and go hug your dog.

(FYI - I drive a low emmissions vehicle and am not rich - not even close)
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 6.54
Joe;
With all due respect, you should take a look at the oil production numbers. ALL the supergiants are in decline. Good luck finding replacements to them. I'm all for renewables, but we're way behind in getting ANY fuel source or alternative to come close to doing what Oil does.

Russia, Saudi, Mexico, North Sea ... remember the phrase 'a great sucking sound..' like thousands of monstrous straws, trying desperately to get a bit of sodapop from the bottom of their cups, only to get mostly ice-water? That's us, right now.

It won't be a 'VERY, long time' at all.. that $147 crude last summer, this banking crisis right now? The peak in Crude Oil Production is very likely done and gone, brother. Check your brakes, steep grade ahead.
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 8.56
Bob Fiske, et al.
There is no "respect" that is "due" to Joe.
The amount of bullshit that he puts out on a daily basis would fertilze a sizable plot of agriculatural land. Quit yakkin' and get crackin', Joe. You'll be the first in line for the food handouts when the shit REALLY hits the fan. You are basically a coward and blowhard who wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone else out while expecting the "magic" of the market to somehow rescue you.
Fools are not "due respect".
Let's ot waste any more time on them.
Posted by Jim Evans on 3.4.09 at 9.28
A little harsh, Jim, but your point is well taken.
Joe, like all present day conservatives and Republicans, is not capable of offering anything constructive in the way of dialogue. They exist only to obstruct and whine and spit on the good work of other people.
CSAs are great. I've been involved with one for years. They are not the cure-all, of course, but they are a start in the right direction.
Posted by Paula on 3.4.09 at 9.33
I guess "the party's over - start growing veggies in your backyard" is a fresh and new and optimistic idea?

You guys are all confused. Bisbort types are the whiners. I'm simply point out the error of that thinking. Glad to see you guys subscribe to the Ted Turner philosphy that we'll be turning to cannabalism in 40-50 years.

What a happy bunch you all are. :)

Bob - Necessity is the mother of all invention. Unfortunately the inventive spirit won't hit its stride until oil's end is more imminent. Eventually oil will either run out or become too expensive and only then will people turn to cheaper alternatives. I'm more optimistic than you about our ability to eventually find viable alternative fuel.

I don't know why you all insist on being so negative. In 1970, it was a coming ice age (never happened). Today it is pending global warming/doom (not happening). Now are are a short time away from running out of oil and food and will fight to the death? Sorry. Go sell crazy someplace else.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 10.24
Joe;
You put in all the cliche'd hyperbole you want. The 'Ice Age' was a manufactured issue by the press, not a predominance of scientists. Cannibalism? Come on.. don't put Ted Turner's words in my mouth. He's abrasive and unedited, but he's smarter than you.. and maybe he even gets to be wrong here and there.

All I'm saying is 'If you want to listen to Real Scientists, there are good reasons to start getting those preparations going.' It's that Inventive Spirit you were talking about, only it doesn't have to be reactionary.. it's actually ok to look ahead and have some backups in place.

Jim Evans;
Trying to keep the conversation substantive and respectful isn't a waste of time. I don't know whether it matters to Joe or not, but it's also a public forum, so I'm not just talking to him, and I don't need to let a conversation that is descending into Adolescent putdowns make me do the same thing. A little pointed sarcasm is fun, but diving into perpetual namecalling does more to drop your own credibility than the one you're shouting it at.

Best,
Bob

"Always tell the truth. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest." - Mark Twain
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 11.25
Kunstler on Y2K
“Y2K is real. Y2K is going to rock our world.
People will consequently suffer…. Some people may lose their lives … I believe it will deeply affect the economies-of-scale of virtually all activities in the United States, essentially requiring us to downsize and localize everything from government to retail merchandising to farming.”
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 11.25
Kunstler on the stock market:

"I'm inclined to predict a gruesome journey down for the Dow Jones into the 4000 range by the end of the year. " -- June 27, 2005

"I'd called for a Dow-4000 late in 2005. I think that was just an error in timing, and still call for the Dow to sink into that range, or worse, in 2006." -- Jan. 2, 2006

"Let's get this out of the way up front: the worst call I made last year was for the Dow to crumble down to 4000 when, in fact, it melted up to a new all-time record high of about 12,500." --Jan 1, 2007

I just wish I had more time to challenge all the silly things spewed on this blog.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 11.29
You see, when I'm faced with complex issues, I try to learn. I read books and absorb opinions from those with more knowledge than me.

I've read dozens of books about our current predicament and prior culture's troubles. Tainter and Diamond both have excellent books on civilization collapse.

Joe-using 1970-present as your timeline for what can happen in this world is beyond foolish.

There is no replacement for oil. There are alternatives, but nothing comes close.

Using real history as a guide, we face a massive transition. Not "the end of the world", but a MAJOR transition for those who make it to the other side.

People that flippantly reject the notion that these are serious times, without educating themselves, and shoot down efforts for those working towards progress really irritate me.

If you want to spout the boilerplate Limbaugh logic, fine. If you felt that way, WHY would you spend any time on an article like this? Why respond?
Posted by john on 3.4.09 at 11.29
Joe- Kunstler sells his words for a living. The more shocking his words, the more $ he gets. Please do not put us all in his boat.

The majority of people working towards sustainability are the same ones who understood that real estate was a bubble and made changes. They knew that as oil rose in price, the most debt laden would be unable to keep up and that a cascading failure of debt would ensue. They knew that soon after that, the financial markets would go into a tailspin. They have spent time and effort to minimize their exposure to these enormous negative forces. Now they are working on the next step.

Yup, they all sound crazy to me.

Back to my original post, this is not the '30's. We had significant advantages then that we don't have now. What that means for the future I'll leave up to you.
Posted by john on 3.4.09 at 11.43
John - you don't get it. And it's telling that you (and others) insist on demeaning my intelligence because of my curt and boiled-down responses. You clearly don't know anything about me or my intelligence so let's just move on and talk about the issues.

We can all agree that there is currently no viable alternative to oil. I do not argue that. I AM THE OPTIMISTIC ONE IN THIS THREAD OF POSTINGS. Technological advancements allow the impossible to become possible in the future. You are the one who seems to be throwing his hands up in the air and saying "we are screwed when the oil runs out" while I remain confident that we will continue to advance alternatives.

And John, as much you and others want to feel so very important...and think you are in the midst of an historical time... and so turned on by it. -- you really aren't.

As I said and I will say again. Necessity is the mother of all invention and so is capitalism. The invention aspect will ramp up as oil really begins to run out and especially when someone can 1) Make money by selling an altnative and 2)People can save money by purchasing said alternative. Make no mistake, I am optimistic. You are the negative ones. I like to speak plainly while folks like you prefer to regurgitate drivel from the likes of Kunstler who have been repeatedly proven as fools.

Here's you and me:
John: Holy crap, this sucks, we are screwed!!
Joe: Cool down. It's not that bad.
John: Why are you so negative, you jerk?!?!?!?!
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 11.49
Joe-this is my last post, and I appreciate your reply. I did not mean insult your intelligence, nor am I being negative. The only thing I questioned was your openness and curiosity to new ideas.

Ask any energy expert on the planet and they will tell you that oil is a unique and extremely energy dense material for which there are no substitutes. Technology cannot change that without unprecedented breakthroughs.

Necessity is the mother of invention. The article above is an excellent example of this.

Capitalism, however, is extremely flawed. If you can explain to me, better than the researched experts from the other side, how we can maintain the ESSENTIAL permanent growth on a planet with finite and increasingly expensive resources, I will change my tune completely.

FWIW, I see a future less reliant on fossil fuels and a fiat currency as a positive, not a negative.

Posted by john on 3.4.09 at 12.09
"Technology cannot change that without unprecedented breakthroughs."

I think you can argue that all breakthroughs are unprecedented. That's all I'm saying. You'd be hard pressed to successfully explain the internet to a person 200 years ago. We could similarly have unimaginable sources of energy 200 years from now.

It's wierd that people have to pile up on me because my view isn't all that different, except that I'm not freaking out that the world is ending.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 12.29
As a first-time visitor to this conversation, allow me to make an observation:
What's wrong with growing some food in your backyard? You might get outside in the fresh air, the sunshine and even get some exercise. And maybe even learn a thing or two about the earth that books and TV and the Internet can't teach you.
I don't understand how this Joe is so threatened by that.
Posted by Oscar on 3.4.09 at 12.38
Oscar,

You read all my posts and concluded that I simply have a problem with people growing their own food? This is what you boiled it down to?

Awesome.

(FYI - I plant a garden in the warmer months in addition to driving a low emmissions vehicle and using a brita instead of bottled water.. I know what you are thinking... how can he do all these things but also be conservative?)

You really nailed the crux of my argument though, Oscar. Kudos to you.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 14.09
Oscar;
'JOE IS THE OPTIMISTIC ONE IN THIS THREAD OF POSTINGS. Technological advancements allow the impossible to become possible in the future.' Believing in the impossible is 'Optimism' .. not 'building and planning for the future'. Heeding warnings, even though there have been bogus warnings (WMDs??) in the past. That preparation is for negative people. The people who poured millions into rewriting code so that Y2K DIDN'T happen don't fit into the 'cool and confident' crowd that know that these things will work themselves out with the self-regulating brilliance of capitalism and the natural bounty of price controls. (See AIG)

We might well have weird and unimaginable energy sources 200 years from now.. but we'll be needing them in 10. Or maybe it'll be the cockroaches running a Civ. on HumanFossil fuels.. But today, we have razor thin margins on wheat production, droughts in Texas, California and Australia for starters.. and big lawns that could be filled with tomatoes and Squash. oh well. Sleep tight, Joe.
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 14.18
Sorry for the reposts.. server jammed.
Posted by Bob Fiske on 3.4.09 at 14.25
Don't forget about guerilla gardening. It has a role to play, too. You can turn any bllighted area into a green space, rescuing the earth one patch at a time.
It's amazing how much life force there is in this world.
Don't get bogged down with endless back and forth with people who will never be convinced.
Do, don't tell.
Here's a link that might open a new door:
http://www.guerrillagardening.org
Posted by Manny on 3.4.09 at 16.14
Alan,

Didn't you recently brag about Obama not needing to use a teleprompter? I think you were proven wrong at the time but this story is pretty interesting. It isn't hugely important either way but it's funny that you would brag about it when it wasn't even true.

www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19663.html
Posted by Joe on 3.5.09 at 12.21
"You really nailed the crux of my argument though, Oscar. Kudos to you."
Thanks, Joe. It was nothing, literally. You are so transparent that it is like...what's the expression...shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by Oscar on 3.6.09 at 4.58
just for grins, here's the alternative unfolding of this thread from the same beginning comment by Joe that happened over at the Valley Advocate posting of this article at http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=9311



Awesomely optimistic blog, Alan!

"Do yourself a favor; start growing food in your back yard and just wait for the world to end. Don't be stupid and think we can ever recover from this!"

Ladies and gentlement - the 2009 liberal mindset! I shudder to think how you may have reacted had you been writing your blog in the 1930s.
Posted by Joe on 3.4.09 at 5.22

What's a gentlement? Are you a gentlement, Joe?

Ladies, gentlemen and gentlement, the 2009 conservative blog comment mindset! He shudders when he thinks. It's just that hard!

You know, back in the 1930s, people actually did grow their own food. They also ate it.
Posted by Frank on 3.4.09 at 17.02

Frank, a gentlement is a gentle government.
Never question the deep inscrutable wisdom of the conservative "mindset."
Because in the future, with our gentlements, we will be able to grow our food with our minds.
Posted by Misty on 3.4.09 at 17.19

That is so cool, Misty. I pretty much want a gentlement.
Posted by Frank on 3.4.09 at 19.50
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